the war started when the US financed and supported a coup in Ukraine in 2014. Russia reacted as the US did when Russia retaliated for missiles placed in Turkey targeting the USSR by installing missiles in Cuba--that took the world to the brink of nuclear war. Russia did not invade Ukraine in 2014.
@pretzelattack1 said in #41:
> the war started when the US financed and supported a coup in Ukraine in 2014. Russia reacted as the US did when Russia retaliated for missiles placed in Turkey targeting the USSR by installing missiles in Cuba--that took the world to the brink of nuclear war. Russia did not invade Ukraine in 2014.
But they did in march 2022
> the war started when the US financed and supported a coup in Ukraine in 2014. Russia reacted as the US did when Russia retaliated for missiles placed in Turkey targeting the USSR by installing missiles in Cuba--that took the world to the brink of nuclear war. Russia did not invade Ukraine in 2014.
But they did in march 2022
yes, in the intervening years between 2014 and 2022 the failure of the Minsk agreement proved to Russia for the final time that both the US and NATO are not agreement capable, and the continuing arms buildup in Ukraine pushed them into a corner. Like I say, the US reacted the same way, under considerably less provocation and with an easy exit ramp, in 1962. Western experts have long warned of the consequences of NATO expansion, but the expansion continued, with the predicted result. The US foolishly thought it would be like Afghanistan in 1979 and weaken Russia and its economy, but the opposite has happened.
@WRPeter said in #43:
> But they did in march 2022
They did it in 2014 actually. With annexation of Crimea and the war in Donbass region.
> But they did in march 2022
They did it in 2014 actually. With annexation of Crimea and the war in Donbass region.
@pretzelattack1 said in #40:
> that isn't how Washington works these days, it has become totally corrupt.
Lol. Said the dude who praises russia in every post.
> that isn't how Washington works these days, it has become totally corrupt.
Lol. Said the dude who praises russia in every post.
@Raspberry_yoghurt said in #39:
> It seems Jewish organizations don't like him as he makes hardcore anti-Israel statements they think sound like antisemitism.
>
> I don't think the lawsuits have any chance of winning, as you're allowed to say you think Israel sucks. Google tells me he just won a trial about that a few days ago.
Been a long time a fan of him. Though the older he gets the more 'I'm uncomfortable with what he says and does. Was refunded for one of his show because of Covid and I'm so sick of this that buying an album or a ticket for his concert is no and over my dead body ( he joined the group of others like Clapton, Stevens and the list goes on...).
> It seems Jewish organizations don't like him as he makes hardcore anti-Israel statements they think sound like antisemitism.
>
> I don't think the lawsuits have any chance of winning, as you're allowed to say you think Israel sucks. Google tells me he just won a trial about that a few days ago.
Been a long time a fan of him. Though the older he gets the more 'I'm uncomfortable with what he says and does. Was refunded for one of his show because of Covid and I'm so sick of this that buying an album or a ticket for his concert is no and over my dead body ( he joined the group of others like Clapton, Stevens and the list goes on...).
@bfchessguy said in #47:
> Been a long time a fan of him. Though the older he gets the more 'I'm uncomfortable with what he says and does. Was refunded for one of his show because of Covid and I'm so sick of this that buying an album or a ticket for his concert is no and over my dead body ( he joined the group of others like Clapton, Stevens and the list goes on...).
I feel more like, some people get more and more whacky as they get old. Waters is 79.
It's not surprising that some of the past Great Ones becomes sorta less coherent when they get that old.
"The Wall" album is one of the albums I listened to ever. Kinda weird for me to see the creatar of it saying nice things about Putin now. So I prefer to thing he wasn't always like that and he just got old and weird.
> Been a long time a fan of him. Though the older he gets the more 'I'm uncomfortable with what he says and does. Was refunded for one of his show because of Covid and I'm so sick of this that buying an album or a ticket for his concert is no and over my dead body ( he joined the group of others like Clapton, Stevens and the list goes on...).
I feel more like, some people get more and more whacky as they get old. Waters is 79.
It's not surprising that some of the past Great Ones becomes sorta less coherent when they get that old.
"The Wall" album is one of the albums I listened to ever. Kinda weird for me to see the creatar of it saying nice things about Putin now. So I prefer to thing he wasn't always like that and he just got old and weird.
who wouldve thought that decades of drugs and rock & roll could harm your mind?
some here should also go easy on the pretzels, too much salt will dry out your brain :D
some here should also go easy on the pretzels, too much salt will dry out your brain :D
some here should learn how to think and see through endlessly recycled propaganda. note to the clueless, ascertaining blame in this latest attempt by the flailing US empire to stave off decline is not "praising Russia". Ask Libya. Ask Iraq. Ask Vietnam. Ask Cuba, Ask Venezuela. Ask Afghanistan. and each time apologists for aggressive wars and genocide will pretend the US is doing
it out of humanitarian concerns.
it out of humanitarian concerns.
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